Sign InJupiter and Saturn in challenging aspect
In this article, we examine the relationship between Jupiter and Saturn, the two largest planets in the solar system. Astrologically, they present significant differences, but also share common points.
Positioned between the fast or personal planets and the slow or generational planets, Jupiter and Saturn are markers of our ability to integrate socially.
Jupiter, first of all, completes a full tour of the zodiac in 12 years, spending about one year in each sign. The planet is associated with the idea of expansion, growth, success, and benevolent authority. Generally considered positive, Jupiter can nevertheless lead to excesses, either through excessive optimism or due to pride.
Saturn, on the other hand, takes 29 and a half years to complete the zodiac and stays about two and a half years in each sign. The planet is linked to time and its constraints, knowing that according to our life expectancy, we experience between two and three returns of Saturn to its natal position, corresponding to important stages of maturity. Saturn is also associated with perseverance and effort, long-term ambition, necessity, and laws. Like Jupiter, Saturn also represents a form of authority, but in this case, it is paternalistic, austere, or restrictive.
When we analyze the relationships between these two planets in a personal chart, we discover how the individual manages their socio-professional affairs, earns money, gains respectability, adapts to norms, or complies with conventions.
When Jupiter and Saturn are in a dynamic aspect – poorly supported conjunction, square, or opposition – this combination signals potential problems related to these themes.
Life will present challenges that can have a public impact. On a personal level, this aspect often indicates a personality oscillating between doubt and faith, and optimism and pessimism.
Over time, the individual can learn to manage their desires and moderate their appetites, while combating their tendency to get discouraged in the face of obstacles and criticism.
This is particularly true on a social level, where it is difficult to find a balance between the desire to act and the will to hold back. Those concerned may feel a form of dissatisfaction, victims of an internal conflict.
To integrate this aspect, it is essential to never relax one's efforts, even in the face of success. One must remain faithful to the morals of their time, stay honest and fair, while enjoying life's gifts.
Frustration can be a source of learning, but it is also important to learn to appreciate the fruits of one's experiences, whether positive or negative. It is not uncommon for this aspect to be overcome with maturity.
In order to better explain this aspect, we are mentioning several well-known personalities. Here Julian Assange (opposition), Winona Ryder (opposition), Woody Allen (square), and Elizabeth II (square).
This article deliberately isolates the aspect so as to better describe them. For this reason, it claims on no account to be a psychological analysis of the celebrity in question, for whom many other articles are available in the "Focus" section.
It is possible to find thousands of other horoscopes having Jupiter and Saturn in tense aspect (or any other aspects), with the online tool search. The planets, positions in sign and in house as well as the orb, are configurable.
Julian Assange
In the astrological chart of the world's most famous whistleblower, Julian Assange, Jupiter and Saturn occupy a prominent place.
In his natal chart, the astrological ambiguity is real because although Jupiter is angular on the Ascendant, it is located in the 12th house, associated with trials and hidden things, and moreover, in the secretive sign of Scorpio.
Additionally, the opposition to Saturn in the 7th house, occupying the relational axis, means that despite his intentions, Julian Assange struggles to impose his way of being. His relationships can hit a wall.
We could, of course, delve deeper into this case by discussing the role of Neptune on the Ascendant, which indicates a personality driven by unclear motivations.
However, if we focus on Saturn and Jupiter, we note that the latter rules the Sagittarius Ascendant, suggesting an outcome not devoid of luck, despite the challenges presented by the studied aspect.
This fact was confirmed by his recent release, obtained through an agreement with the American justice system, after he agreed to plead guilty to "participation in a conspiracy to obtain and disclose national defense information."
The press, commenting on this news, questioned the consequences of this "deal" for the freedom of information. The end of this seemingly endless judicial saga came at a cost.
It particularly highlights that states have the right to protect sensitive data, as it concerns public security. To conclude on this aspect, we see that while a solution was found to balance divergent interests, it was far from evident.
Julian Assange
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Winona Ryder
In the astrological chart of actress Winona Ryder, we note the presence of Jupiter in the 12th house, but angular, opposed to Saturn in Gemini in the 6th house. This position suggests, among a range of possibilities, social integration problems that can have consequences on mental and physical health, as well as on the atmosphere of her work environment.
Born into a family of Jewish intellectuals of Eastern European origin, Winona began her film career very young, being revealed by Tim Burton's film Beetlejuice in 1988 when she was only 17.
From a young age, despite her dazzling success, she exhibited signs of social adaptation difficulties. At school, she struggled to fit in and also suffered from a water phobia that plagued her for a long time.
Although embraced by Hollywood and critics, she poorly handled some professional failures during the 2000s. During this time, she was caught shoplifting: the trial revealed that she was a kleptomaniac and addicted to medication.
It should be noted that Saturn is the ruler of the 2nd house, which concerns self-earned money and material possessions: the opposing influence of Jupiter extends here and explains her troubles.
Fortunately, she managed to overcome these challenges, confirming that this aspect, despite its demands, provides a personality structure that allows for resilience.
She even spoke about this judicial incident in Vogue, concluding that her public arrest ultimately enabled her to break free from her addiction to medication.
Winona Ryder
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Woody Allen
In the astrological chart of director Woody Allen, Jupiter is powerful as it is in domicile, conjunct the Sun, and angular. The planet is also at the heart of a T-square, a very energetic configuration, connecting his Virgo Ascendant and Saturn angular in the 7th house in Pisces.
For this brilliant director, the relationship between these two planets illustrates how his private issues have had public and socio-professional consequences.
In the 1970s, his popularity soared: he was then considered the spokesperson for a new generation of directors, with a sharp and amused eye on the mores of his contemporaries.
Prolific, he possesses an almost encyclopedic knowledge, full of references to psychoanalysis, very much in vogue at that time, and knows better than anyone how to depict his beloved city, New York, as well as his sometimes neurotic characters.
All of this, with a bold humor, very much in the Jupiterian tone. With the planet's position in the 4th house, he draws abundantly from his personal experiences for his films, willingly turning himself into a subject of satire.
However, the tide turned significantly for him in the 2020s. After an initial controversy regarding his relationship with Mia Farrow, whom he left to marry their adopted daughter, it was their son Ronan Farrow who later took up hostilities against him.
Without delving into their family matters and the justice system, it is noteworthy that this powerful T-square, reinforcing the power of Saturn in his relationships, might hold the key to the story. Publicly, Woody Allen is now kept at a distance, similar to the situation of Roman Polanski.
Woody Allen
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Elizabeth II
Queen Elizabeth II, who experienced one of the longest reigns in history, was born with Saturn culminating at the Midheaven, in square with Jupiter in Aquarius. For her, this configuration is one of the essential characteristics of her astrological chart. Additionally, the planet of rigor rules her Capricorn Ascendant and has a strong influence, as the historical ruler of Aquarius, over Jupiter.
As a Saturnian figure, the Queen prioritized her royal mission over her private life. The placement of the planet of rules and laws suggests that this may have created frustrations within her, which she kept secret.
The tension with a freedom-loving Jupiter in Aquarius, conjunct Mars, indicates that she had a non-conformist vision of leadership and was capable of understanding certain demands for independence.
At the head of the Commonwealth, the sovereign had to navigate a long period of instability during the decolonization process, witnessing the fluctuation (and especially increase) of member states within this organization between 1956 and 2021.
She had to arbitrate the tensions generated by the various governments of these many states, encompassing nearly a third of the world's population. By adhering to the monarchy's motto "never complain, never explain," often attributed to Benjamin Disraeli, Elizabeth II managed to stay the course, leaving at her death an astonishing example of stability that lasted more than 70 years.
To fully analyze her role, it would be necessary to consider Neptune, which is part of the configuration with Saturn and Jupiter. However, that is beyond the scope here, as we have deliberately focused on this particular aspect.
Elizabeth II
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