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Venus and Saturn in Dynamic Aspect

Astrological aspects: general introduction

The analysis of a natal chart must be as comprehensive as possible. This is what we do as we make our personalized reports available in our e-shop. It must be borne in mind that many astrologers concentrate on the interpretation of planets in signs and in houses, and of angles, without paying enough attention to aspects. On the contrary, we believe that when aspects involve personal planets between themselves or slow-moving planets, they are of fundamental importance. In all cases, they are at least as significant as the Ascendant or the Sun. This is particularly relevant when the orb is tight (i.e. when the aspect is exact). This is the criterion we apply for this new series of articles which describe how well-known personalities experience certain aspects.


Venus and Saturn in conflicting aspect

When Venus and Saturn are linked by a dynamic aspect it is quite a challenge, because they are both totally different from one another. To get an accurate picture, imagine an elderly man looking austere, marked by trials, rather stern but wise, and a woman, gorgeous, young, cheerful, nice, and attractive.

How do these planets manage to find common ground? Anyway, people having this sort of aspect in their natal chart have a hard time reconciling their deeply different energies.

To begin with, let us describe the areas Venus rules. Affective life is her priority. Love, gentleness, well-being, and charm prevail over all considerations. Venus urges us to be more or less narcissistic.

Under her influence, one fishes for compliments, one wants to be showered with gifts or to be the focus of attention, and one wishes to charm. In general, pleasure, leisure activities, and arts are Venus's domains.

In short, she rules all enjoyable things in life to the extent that ancient astrologers used to call her "The Lesser Benefic", in the same way as they used to call Jupiter "The Greater Benefic", the effects of the latter being powerful.

As for Saturn, his reputation is rather difficult. He relates to our limits, our duties, and our fears. He strives to give us the strength and the discipline we need to commit ourselves for a long time despite any huge obstacle. Time and duration are Saturn's friends, at least if we strive to keep our aim in mind, relentlessly.

He is the planet of merit, and he promises that our efforts will finally bear fruits. It is true that those who are able to understand Saturn's messages gain wisdom and profundity. This often occurs at maturity, sometimes even later.

Saturn and wine are similar. In a sky map, if Saturn receives nice aspects, the chart owner has a good chance of aging well, with neither bitterness nor regret, for serenity grows more powerful with time.

When Venus and Saturn are found together in a sky map, especially if they are linked by a tense aspect – square or opposition – their antagonism increases. As a result, love life is potentially seen as a source of frustrations or may bring about many rejections and break-ups.

In some cases, after several unsuccessful attempts, one realizes that celibacy is the only option. In some other cases, one keeps on having one short-lived affair after another, because one is afraid to become attached and to bear the ensuing consequences.

There is also the possibility that the romantic relationship is so idealized that by comparison, necessarily, the reality is not up to expectations. This results in dissatisfaction and an unfulfilling life together.

Of course, it is always possible to transform a challenging aspect into an asset and strength. However, to succeed, one must know oneself very well.

Fortunately, in the end, the experience proves helpful, for people understand repetitive mechanisms better, and they manage to become less vulnerable. Nevertheless, the path is often arduous and requires patience.

As always when interpreting tense aspects, it is the other features involved in the configuration of planets which allow to find out whether it is easy or not to overcome hurdles and to turn them into assets. Therefore, other harmonious aspects linked to a square or an opposition between Venus and Saturn may be a more or less rapid outlet for the success of challenges.

In order to better explain this aspect, we are mentioning several well-known personalities, here Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, Clint Eastwood, Léa Seydoux, and Gérard Depardieu. This article deliberately isolates the aspect (a square or an opposition) so as to better describe them. For this reason, it claims on no account to be a psychological analysis of the celebrity in question, for whom many other articles are available in the "Focus" section.

It is possible to find thousands of other horoscopes having Venus in aspect of square or opposition with Saturn (or any other aspects), with the online tool search. The planets, positions in sign and in house as well as the orb, are configurable.

Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis

Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis / Author : Robert Knudsen 09-2010 / CC BY-SA (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)

Two exceptionally outstanding marriages have marked for ever the destiny of Jacqueline Kennedy-Onassis, née Bouvier.

The story began when she married John Fitzgerald Kennedy, a newly-elected senator who was so modern, flamboyant, and capable of breaking all the codes, and who became the 35th president of the United States several years later. The Americans have eventually found their mythical couple.

However, reality was less glamorous. Once the curtain was down, John Kennedy showed that he was physically impaired by various health problems. Moreover, he was often unfaithful and absent. He was unable to comfort his wife during her difficult pregnancies.

Nevertheless, their relationship was strong, in Saturn's mode based on duty, i.e. undemonstrative, and well-thought.

The tragic event of the death of JFK is the best illustration of this planetary position. On 22 December 1963, Kennedy was seated beside her husband in the car when he was assassinated. Although her suit was stained with blood, she refused to change clothes. "I want them to see what they have done to Jack", she declared, revealing her capacity to cope with adversity till the end.

Her marriage to Aristotle Onassis is a different version of the opposition of Venus in Gemini in the 8th House (other people's money, death), and Saturn in Sagittarius in the 2nd House (material life, properties earned oneself).

Out of duty, she learned Greek and made every effort to become integrated, but in vain. The spouses' relationship grew colder and colder, and ended with the death of the billionaire, who was planning to file for divorce.

It must be mentioned that in Kennedy's chart, Mars in the 10th House is in a loose square with Venus, which increases the risks for tension and dissatisfaction in the emotional area.

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Born:Sunday, July 28, 1929
In:Southampton (NY) (United States)
Sun: 5°10' LeoAS: 17°59' Scorpio
Moon:25°36' Aries MC: 28°55' Leo
Dominants: Leo, Virgo, Scorpio
Neptune, Sun, Pluto
Houses 9, 10, 8 / Fire, Water / Fixed
Chinese Astrology: Earth Snake
Numerology: Birth Path 11
Height: Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis is 5' 7" (1m70) tall
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Astrology: horoscope and birth chart of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis (Placidus) Image taken from the horoscope, birth chart and astrological portrait of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, born July 28, 1929, 2:30 PM, Southampton (NY) (United States) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 34' 21° 46' 18° 23' 24' 10' 25' 28° 55' 08' 14° 50' 17° 59' 24° 39' 21' 11° 20' 25° 36' 17° 46'

Clint Eastwood

Clint Eastwood / Author :  movie studio 1964 / CC BY-SA (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)

The American actor Clint Eastwood, a real living legend of the cinema, has an afflicted Venus who exposes him to several challenges.

Venus is posited in the 8th House, in a quite tight opposition with Saturn, in a loose conjunction with Pluto, and in square with Uranus. With this stunning and rich personality, we can see the numerous possibilities of this configuration.

First, one remarks the almost masochistic nature of the actor's roles, noted by movie critics. As if Eastwood took a malicious delight in personifying unpleasant characters, wretched creatures undergoing the ravages of time, or antipathetic and grumpy anti-heroes similar to a tough Saturn, as hard as a rock, cold and without nuance. Owing to the opposition with Venus, although the actor is handsome and attractive, he does not seek to charm at all, at least apparently, just as suggested by the aspect.

Besides, Eastwood was a child born in a poor family. He often showed that he has a dry and crude mind, especially in his political choices. Let us not forget that in his chart, Saturn runs the show, since he is in domicile in Capricorn.

We might be surprised by his philandering, but this is not the case, since his behavior is probably one of the means of expression of a conflict between Venus and Saturn. Indeed, a great womanizer, the actor-director happened to be seduced by the actresses playing with him. Eastwood married twice and has fathered seven children, not to mention a hidden daughter.

The following anecdote summarizes accurately the Venus-Saturn discordance, which was not yet transcended at that time. When he was a teenager, Eastwood got a girl pregnant. Her parents, who were acquainted with the Eastwoods, were scandalized and provided Eastwood with the money needed to finance an abortion, although he was willing to marry her. He promised his parents that he would calm down. Later on, he explained to his friends that he has been devastated by this event, and that since then, the girl has remained his only true love.

Born:Saturday, May 31, 1930
In:San Francisco (CA) (United States)
Sun: 9°50' GeminiAS: 18°35' Scorpio
Moon:1°43' Leo MC: 27°59' Leo
Dominants: Leo, Cancer, Aries
Neptune, Mercury, Pluto
Houses 7, 8, 6 / Fire, Earth / Fixed
Chinese Astrology: Metal Horse
Numerology: Birth Path 22
Height: Clint Eastwood is 6' 4" (1m93) tall
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Astrology: horoscope and birth chart of Clint Eastwood (Placidus) Image taken from the horoscope, birth chart and astrological portrait of Clint Eastwood, born May 31, 1930, 5:35 PM, San Francisco (CA) (United States) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 23° 49' 50' 24° 05' 18' 18° 09' 43' 27° 59' 54' 18° 35' 10° 28' 10° 38' 18° 38' 14° 23' 28° 27' 12'

Léa Seydoux

Léa Seydoux / Author : Georges Biard 05-2014 / CC BY-SA (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)

The French actress has a powerful Venus who culminates in the sign of Taurus, in tight conjunction with the Midheaven. It indicates the possibility of having a nice artistic career based on seduction.

However, Saturn, in conjunction with the Imum Coeli (family roots) is the spoilsport. In this case, we can interpret it as a kind of complex linked to her background. Indeed, Léa Seydoux is the daughter of the mighty Jérôme Seydoux, businessman, billionaire, and co-president of the Pathé cinemas. She is also the grand-niece of Nicolas Seydoux, the former president of Gaumont.

As a result, it was difficult for her to set aside these ties, because people constantly keep on reminding them to her. When she earned international recognition with Blue is the Warmest Color by Abdellatif Kechiche, she ceaselessly insisted in her interviews that she had learned everything on the job, because she was born into the theatre.

Seydoux obviously tried to distance herself from her famous and rich family, but perhaps she did it clumsily. On the Internet, anyway, she has been libeled.

It must be acknowledged that since then, the comedian has made her way, and has managed to impose herself with panache. Her chart includes a Sun-Mars conjunction in the 11th House, an aspect which provides the necessary willpower and perseverance to implement projects successfully.

Author: Georges Biard
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Licence: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0
Born:Monday, July 1, 1985
In:Paris 16e (France)
Sun: 9°27' CancerAS: 0°21' Virgo
Moon:24°06' Sagittarius MC: 21°33' Taurus
Dominants: Taurus, Scorpio, Cancer
Venus, Saturn, Mercury
Houses 4, 10, 11 / Earth, Water / Fixed
Chinese Astrology: Wood Ox
Numerology: Birth Path 4
Height: Léa Seydoux is 5' 6" (1m68) tall
Pageviews: 89,320

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Astrology: horoscope and birth chart of Léa Seydoux (Placidus) Image taken from the horoscope, birth chart and astrological portrait of Léa Seydoux, born July 1, 1985, 10:30 AM, Paris 16e (France) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 17° 04' 21° 33' 23° 55' 24° 43' 27' 14° 30' 21' 21' 57' 21° 57' 15° 01' 24° 06' 02' 15° 00' 15° 52'

Gérard Depardieu

Gérard Depardieu / Author : Georges Biard 1994 / CC BY-SA (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)

One of the best French actors – or the best one for movie-lovers – the earthy Gérard Depardieu, has Venus in Sagittarius in the 12th House, in square with Saturn in Virgo in the 8th House.

The challenge is considerable for affective life, because the backdrop consists of two difficult areas relating to the end of things and to crises. This is all the more so that Pluto is harmonious in the 8th House too, in a loose trine with Venus, and that he tends to add passion into each love affair Depardieu experiences.

Regarding the sentimental area, Gégé (Depardieu’s nickname) wrote in his remarkable and straightforward autobiography, It happened just like that, published in 2014 in French (XO Editions): "I have suffered from each split. The misery lasted a long time, two years, three years, it is dead boring. At the same time, I feel for those who have never experienced this kind of pain."

This is a clear and typical example of how such a dynamic aspect may be expressed.

Depardieu was married for a long time to Élisabeth, by whom he had two children, also actors, Guillaume and Julie. He had a host of other important relationships after a divorce proceeding which lasted 12 years.

Those relationships are in conformity with Venus posited in a Mutable sign (multiplicity). Moreover, Uranus is in conjunction with the Descendant, which predisposes Depardieu to trigger dynamic, intense, and unexpected romances.

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Born:Monday, December 27, 1948
In:Châteauroux (36) (France)
Sun: 5°27' CapricornAS: 25°22' Sagittarius
Moon:27°29' Scorpio MC: 24°09' Libra
Dominants: Capricorn, Sagittarius, Libra
Jupiter, Uranus, Sun
Houses 1, 8, 12 / Earth, Fire / Cardinal
Chinese Astrology: Earth Rat
Numerology: Birth Path 7
Height: Gérard Depardieu is 5' 11" (1m80) tall
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Astrology: horoscope and birth chart of Gérard Depardieu (Placidus) Image taken from the horoscope, birth chart and astrological portrait of Gérard Depardieu, born December 27, 1948, 8:00 AM, Châteauroux (36) (France) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 28° 15' 16° 13' 06' 15° 04' 24° 09' 27° 29' 41' 25° 22' 27' 17' 13° 45' 23° 23' 20' 17° 17' 08'